tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post1495825507979259174..comments2024-03-28T01:19:35.439-04:00Comments on Travel with Kevin and Ruth: Apartheid's Leftover ProblemsKevin Readhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05795747155781311686noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-81533850622980745302014-01-28T00:30:41.297-05:002014-01-28T00:30:41.297-05:00It is sad for sure. If everyone could treat everyo...It is sad for sure. If everyone could treat everyone as they themselves want to be treated, the world would be a much better place to live.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-46035061048732386442014-01-28T00:27:22.363-05:002014-01-28T00:27:22.363-05:00We keep learning more as we travel. We are really ...We keep learning more as we travel. We are really looking forward to this next part of our trip.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-25194821819034852852014-01-28T00:25:22.687-05:002014-01-28T00:25:22.687-05:00That is very well put!That is very well put!Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-35961043321275724282014-01-28T00:22:51.452-05:002014-01-28T00:22:51.452-05:00Yep, I guess 20 years is just a drop in the bucket...Yep, I guess 20 years is just a drop in the bucket. I would be nice to change come faster though, especially for some of these people. Education seems to be the key to improving the quality of life.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-35299598841997841402014-01-28T00:20:07.276-05:002014-01-28T00:20:07.276-05:00You are correct, many people resist change. It is ...You are correct, many people resist change. It is so hard to believe that there are still issues in the United States with racism even after all these years. As I mentioned, with each generation things do improve.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-35768504216631096062014-01-28T00:16:27.354-05:002014-01-28T00:16:27.354-05:00There was to a extent in Windhoek and Swakopmund b...There was to a extent in Windhoek and Swakopmund but most of the other places we really didn't notice it much. Namibia has a much smaller population and much of it is rural and we believe that is why there isn't as much evidence of this.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-15053183812757901492014-01-28T00:11:09.788-05:002014-01-28T00:11:09.788-05:00You are right, we never really thought about it in...You are right, we never really thought about it in those terms and 100 years is a long time. Change has been happening through the years though, amazing that it has to take so long.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-50696826433271839572014-01-27T23:46:27.219-05:002014-01-27T23:46:27.219-05:00You are correct Bob, it may never happen in our li...You are correct Bob, it may never happen in our lifetime but it will change bit by bit with each generation and certainly will help.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-18153018820073056482014-01-27T16:05:15.146-05:002014-01-27T16:05:15.146-05:00Kinda sad that change takes so long. Even with gr...Kinda sad that change takes so long. Even with great men like Nelson Mandela, progress is slow and tedious. My guess is that the white population doesn't want to lose what they have.<br />I don't understand why this is, but then again I live in Canada, where color of a person's skin isn't a huge issue for most people.Karyn-Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12441864113888457036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-42568586775818918832014-01-26T20:18:19.884-05:002014-01-26T20:18:19.884-05:00Very interesting!Very interesting!Elspeth Readhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01412631907112053091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-39651890467027422012014-01-26T17:35:27.988-05:002014-01-26T17:35:27.988-05:00Here's an interesting perspective from Kenyan ...Here's an interesting perspective from Kenyan actress Lupita Nyong'o (12 Years a Slave). She says that growing up in Africa she didn't think of herself as black. "In America more so than in Africa for sure, your race determines people's perceptions so deeply in a way that you may not have considered. You have to learn to be black in America, you have to learn what comes with the skin colour."Elaine Readhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16070038707624961451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-67062720017586536662014-01-26T13:17:08.168-05:002014-01-26T13:17:08.168-05:00What Kevin meant to say is that I like a lot of di...What Kevin meant to say is that I like a lot of different wines. We did have a good laugh about his wording though!Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-89570601398095607062014-01-26T12:58:11.672-05:002014-01-26T12:58:11.672-05:00Here in South Africa, I like Castle Lager. In Nami...Here in South Africa, I like Castle Lager. In Namibia, I liked Tafel Lager. Still, I'm looking forward to a nice cold Victoria when we get to Mexico in March!<br /><br />Ruth likes a lot of wine, but we had a really nice one last night called Coral Reef Cabernet Sauvignon.Kevin Readhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05795747155781311686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-56713044773540643072014-01-26T12:45:15.413-05:002014-01-26T12:45:15.413-05:0020 years isn't very long for change. Think ho...20 years isn't very long for change. Think how long it's taking in the States.Gaelynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05784162697113288888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-81053394599021051462014-01-26T11:12:31.750-05:002014-01-26T11:12:31.750-05:00Croft, we were actually at Soweto-on-Sea, a suburb...Croft, we were actually at Soweto-on-Sea, a suburb of Port Elizabeth. This is not the same Soweto that is a suburb of Johannesburg, however it was named after that Soweto. Having said that, I'm quite certain that the Soweto near Joburg hasn't changed that much either!Kevin Readhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05795747155781311686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-67094712957723194662014-01-26T10:54:45.207-05:002014-01-26T10:54:45.207-05:00Humans are very resistant to change even if it mea...Humans are very resistant to change even if it means a better life for everyone. So 20 years is just a drop in the bucket of change. When I moved from Montana to the DC area, I was shocked to find out that the Civil War is still being fought by some folks. And racism was still alive and well. I had no idea. I am so happy to be catching up with your travels. What a wonderful journey.Jim and Sandiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16108729200561576870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-31681735393962943052014-01-26T10:51:59.067-05:002014-01-26T10:51:59.067-05:00Soweto does not appear to have changed much since ...Soweto does not appear to have changed much since the student uprising of 1976 protesting the forced introduction of the Afrikaans language into the educational system. Change is coming painfully slow for the vast majority of South African people.Crofthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17634815881045387152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-34234316740925748762014-01-26T10:32:49.913-05:002014-01-26T10:32:49.913-05:00Thanks for writing on this difficult subject as it...Thanks for writing on this difficult subject as it is so much of what South Africa is. As a tourist you cannot ignore the obvious extreme differences in how people live there. My question to you both is when you were travelling in Namibia, did you have the same observations and/or experience as you have seen in South Africa? I have been really enjoying reading about your adventures!Denise Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091006489532460057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-89248374837784212182014-01-26T09:19:47.288-05:002014-01-26T09:19:47.288-05:00I'm afraid Bob is likely correct. One doesn...I'm afraid Bob is likely correct. One doesn't have to look very far to see why if they live in the USA.<br />The legacy of slavery here continues to present complex socio-economic problems some 100+ years after it's 'official' ending. Tamarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18248579159497266955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-33822995229508968082014-01-26T09:05:07.529-05:002014-01-26T09:05:07.529-05:00Great write up. It never ceases to amaze me how aw...Great write up. It never ceases to amaze me how awful man has been, and continues to be, to his fellow man. Glad progress is being made in SA. Seems to be going the other way in so many other places. <br /><br />On a different note. I know you like your beer Kevin, and Ruth her wine. What has been your favorite(s) of each?Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06474099776109460478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-5696708141168328692014-01-26T08:57:58.191-05:002014-01-26T08:57:58.191-05:00It may never happen in our lifetime. The scourge ...It may never happen in our lifetime. The scourge of colonialism and the subjugation of other peoples (yes, that's the correct term) has far reaching consequences. <br />I'm sure some efforts are well intended, but the policy of hiring or advancement based on race is a non starter for one. Look at "Affirmative Action" in the States and see how that has played out. <br />OK, I'll stop now.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03523653271715366168noreply@blogger.com