tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post8447245936872098915..comments2024-03-28T01:19:35.439-04:00Comments on Travel with Kevin and Ruth: A taste of what the illegals feel Kevin Readhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05795747155781311686noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-51525379821448715732015-02-14T18:29:10.470-05:002015-02-14T18:29:10.470-05:00The one main thing that can help in Mexico is educ...The one main thing that can help in Mexico is education. We know many Mexicans that do well for themselves and have no need to cross into the States to better their lives, I just wish that more can realize this and get the education that is needed to improve their lives.<br /><br />As Kevin said Mexicans can make money to send home, they live in a home with other Mexicans/friends and share the rent, they don't try to live as we would and that is how they manage to save money to send home. Also in many cases they don't intend to live in the States permanently (although some do) but instead make enough that they can buy some land and build they own homes back in Mexico.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-38932972569829084392015-02-14T18:21:59.980-05:002015-02-14T18:21:59.980-05:00You are so very right on that! You don't know ...You are so very right on that! You don't know what goes through their minds until you have lived in their shoes.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-20809881634323840022015-02-14T18:20:27.395-05:002015-02-14T18:20:27.395-05:00It is Sherry, and I don't know if it will ever...It is Sherry, and I don't know if it will ever get better or how they can create a system that will work all around!<br /><br />Glad that you enjoyed the pictures.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-20396301255482427362015-02-14T18:18:37.003-05:002015-02-14T18:18:37.003-05:00What we saw didn't seem too bad but I am sure ...What we saw didn't seem too bad but I am sure that if you added it all up then it would amount to a lot. It would be nice if they were able to just clean it up around the "attractions" on the trail and by the trail itself,. I know that it would be totally impossible to clean the whole desert up. Having said that it seems that in both Canada and the US we as a society still have a problem with garbage, we saw the effects of this along the highway today and that wasn't from the illegals!Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-17177512879331318202015-02-14T18:13:19.534-05:002015-02-14T18:13:19.534-05:00We have to agree with you jonyboytj, their first a...We have to agree with you jonyboytj, their first and foremost thought is getting out of the desert alive and without being caught. I am sure the thought of garbage doesn't even cross their minds.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-53595267315355332692015-02-14T12:25:21.066-05:002015-02-14T12:25:21.066-05:00Dugg and Croft, you are both correct. We personall...Dugg and Croft, you are both correct. We personally know some Mexicans who work illegally in the U.S. six months to two years at a time, making decent money ($14 an hour) working semi skilled labor jobs.Kevin Readhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05795747155781311686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-26152896494885286002015-02-14T11:22:06.411-05:002015-02-14T11:22:06.411-05:00Dugg, illegal immigrants do not end up with the hi...Dugg, illegal immigrants do not end up with the high paying jobs that some Americans enjoy. The lucky ones get minimum wage "car wash" type jobs while most line up on street corners hoping for day labor work. After buying food and paying rent at rates much higher than in MX, they have nothing to send home.Crofthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17634815881045387152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-7401842276619457722015-02-14T10:15:54.050-05:002015-02-14T10:15:54.050-05:00The actual amount of garbage left behind is stagge...The actual amount of garbage left behind is staggering---an average of eight pounds per immigrant---and I hate seeing it in our beautiful desert. But picking it all up and hauling it away would be a tremendous, expensive undertaking.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15974453598992131798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-617912694594160322015-02-14T09:59:50.405-05:002015-02-14T09:59:50.405-05:00Unfortunately this is not realistic. These people ...Unfortunately this is not realistic. These people crossing are crossing illegally and the last thing on their mind is making sure to take their garbage with them, as they are fighting to stay alive in the desert. All things considered there isn't a lot of garbage but we did notice in certain areas like around the mines, which is where they probably take time to eat or rest is a little more noticeable. It wouldn't take long for the rangers to pick it up once a week or so.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-32827089588453160882015-02-14T09:58:11.104-05:002015-02-14T09:58:11.104-05:00Sadly, it is not a false promise. Economic condit...Sadly, it is not a false promise. Economic conditions (and thus daily wages) are vastly better north of the border. Better enough that coyotes and death are worth the risk.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15974453598992131798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-38379051494230742052015-02-14T09:51:37.511-05:002015-02-14T09:51:37.511-05:00Yes, it is funny. We have talked to Mexican friend...Yes, it is funny. We have talked to Mexican friends who would like to come up to the US and we tell them that they are often better off to stay in Mexico. Things aren't always better or easier on the other side of the border but they see what people have from watching TV and think that they can also achieve that but sometimes our money hunger lives forget about some of the better things in life don't cost money. Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-4856573549366563222015-02-14T09:45:28.163-05:002015-02-14T09:45:28.163-05:00We have found that most countries have problems wi...We have found that most countries have problems with illegals getting through the borders. There will always be people who think the grass is greener on the other side of the fence and I guess in some cases this is true.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-22926745720781444592015-02-14T09:41:34.441-05:002015-02-14T09:41:34.441-05:00I am sure we aren't alone, although we could h...I am sure we aren't alone, although we could have used them yesterday on our hike but no one came to our rescue! ;-)<br /><br />I think if you decide to live here or visit here then it is just something that you have to deal with and accept otherwise if people don't like it then they should move or not visit the area. It is part of life here and it doesn't look like it is going to change any time soon. We can't get over the amount of money spent protecting the border or the man power needed and yet people and drugs are still getting through.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-13903317064661575122015-02-14T09:35:20.189-05:002015-02-14T09:35:20.189-05:00A couple of times we have had to stop at a couple ...A couple of times we have had to stop at a couple of the check points but only for a minute or so otherwise we just get waved through.<br /><br />Coming down here the other day we had a vehicle speeding towards us in our lane before going back in his own lane with at least two border patrol vehicles chasing behind him with their lights flashing. That added a bit of excitement to our afternoon!Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-20492556631770012352015-02-14T09:31:46.505-05:002015-02-14T09:31:46.505-05:00Thank you Carl! We won't be headed that far th...Thank you Carl! We won't be headed that far this time as we are now headed to Tuscon but we will try to keep that in mind to our next visit to this area.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-54437948088535090462015-02-14T09:29:35.757-05:002015-02-14T09:29:35.757-05:00We can believe that and many of them will try agai...We can believe that and many of them will try again.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-1472219013084644282015-02-14T09:28:09.767-05:002015-02-14T09:28:09.767-05:00Thanks Dianne, and yes I think too many times peop...Thanks Dianne, and yes I think too many times people here take their lives for granted.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-59941771810161471832015-02-14T09:26:12.120-05:002015-02-14T09:26:12.120-05:00Neither can we but many of them do it to try and b...Neither can we but many of them do it to try and better their lives and they think this is the only way to do that.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-49210952232842379832015-02-14T09:23:55.862-05:002015-02-14T09:23:55.862-05:00We love the desert and cactus for a little while b...We love the desert and cactus for a little while but that is about it. We really miss the trees and we are getting to that point now.<br /><br />Just hiking those 8 miles and then yesterday another 10 miles, just makes us wonder how on earth they manage it!Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-26452629874748669502015-02-14T00:22:26.351-05:002015-02-14T00:22:26.351-05:00I agree entirely Chris but so many are attracted b...I agree entirely Chris but so many are attracted by that false promise of wealth and luxury NOB that they are willing to risk everything.Crofthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17634815881045387152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-11287005096716357492015-02-14T00:17:58.549-05:002015-02-14T00:17:58.549-05:00People aren't escaping from Mexico. Mexicans ...People aren't escaping from Mexico. Mexicans make a choice to make a life at home or in another country fed sometimes by false promises and images. Immigration is something that happens all over the world. Thousands of people immigrate to Mexico from all around the world for various reasons. My grandparents immigrated to the U.S. in 1911, I immigrated to Mexico in 1985. Mexico is a free country and people have a choice of what they do with their lives. living.boondockingmexicohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17157433834193440923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-75777613926295736862015-02-13T22:36:49.060-05:002015-02-13T22:36:49.060-05:00We have looked out over that same desert and wonde...We have looked out over that same desert and wondered at the desperation people must feel to be able to even attempt it. I am pretty sure I never could but then you never really know what you are capable of given the situation. A great post!Crofthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17634815881045387152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-66482550661351276902015-02-13T21:59:53.653-05:002015-02-13T21:59:53.653-05:00You are too funny :-)You are too funny :-)Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04265238602036740256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-33939640230836937882015-02-13T20:25:08.442-05:002015-02-13T20:25:08.442-05:00Nice post Kevin. It does seem that we are working ...Nice post Kevin. It does seem that we are working harder with less success since throwing fencing and more money at the problem. It is a sad situation. Love your pictures - the mountains behind Ruth in Out in the desert, the clouds with Ruth and that enormously tall cactus, your Victoria Mine Picture, you with the Oregon Pipe, the sunset the last shot. Really good pictures. Thanks for sharing them.Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00328866430156879312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-39454880948323853152015-02-13T19:56:58.366-05:002015-02-13T19:56:58.366-05:00I hate seeing garbage left in nature, I do believe...I hate seeing garbage left in nature, I do believe the rangers should pick up the garbage or organize volunteers to do so. I think a lot of people would be willing to do so. A sad situation all around.Cheapchickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15158208632054014311noreply@blogger.com