tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post1931656717106949851..comments2024-03-28T01:19:35.439-04:00Comments on Travel with Kevin and Ruth: What's wrong with this map?Kevin Readhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05795747155781311686noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-20365578456225745802022-07-19T03:46:46.319-04:002022-07-19T03:46:46.319-04:00We had never heard about wealthier countries havin...We had never heard about wealthier countries having more control over the size of the countries on the map but it also doesn't surprise us it this actually does happen.<br /><br />We think that the maps on a globe are probably the most accurate or the last picture that Kevin posted in this post.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-8556928554773129742022-07-18T22:31:00.193-04:002022-07-18T22:31:00.193-04:00I can't believe I'm reading this 9 years l...I can't believe I'm reading this 9 years later. I remember hearing something about wealthier countries having more control over the sizes on the map. A way to appear more powerful. No idea if that's true but I can't believe we still dispute the size so much. Even today in my research it was hard to get clear answers. Crazy! Evil chickenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17094712987155050753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-13488977733921924822013-10-30T18:36:17.943-04:002013-10-30T18:36:17.943-04:00Thanks Alexandra!Thanks Alexandra!Kevin Readhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05795747155781311686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-53170860675417170262013-10-30T03:54:26.837-04:002013-10-30T03:54:26.837-04:00This is important. I want to note that ANY flat ma...This is important. I want to note that ANY flat map MUST distort geometry in some way because the Earth is curved and not a perfect sphere. No map is perfect (unless it is a 3D sphere (using up to date data on Earth's surface)). Distortion are unavoidable (bc locations are projected from a complexly curved surface to a flat or simply curved map surface). Portions of the Earth's surface must be compressed or stretched to fit onto the map. Different map projections may distort the globe in different ways. A specific map projection can preserve ONLY 1 property: Area, Angle, Distance, or Direction. So how do we choose? It should be based on the purpose of the map, the scale or area to be shown, and what property is critical to preserve. But often it is whatever the map maker is familiar with and can find (since many map makers these days are not trained geographers/ don't know or care about distortion/ are just digital artists or laymen).Alexandra (张雅莉)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03204058841367894704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-24654037778274121672013-08-18T13:59:43.860-04:002013-08-18T13:59:43.860-04:00Google Earth to be more precise! Google Earth to be more precise! Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-28864616375993797152013-08-18T13:55:05.832-04:002013-08-18T13:55:05.832-04:00Glad that you enjoyed it John.Glad that you enjoyed it John.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-29000953458826870032013-08-18T13:53:41.442-04:002013-08-18T13:53:41.442-04:00We will never know. There is a tribe in northern N...We will never know. There is a tribe in northern Namibia, the Himba, that still live their life as they have always done and they haven't conformed to "western" ways. We are hoping to make a visit to that village when we are exploring Namibia.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-75793998162975291342013-08-18T13:43:54.104-04:002013-08-18T13:43:54.104-04:00Gotta keep the map people/companies in business yo...Gotta keep the map people/companies in business you know! ;)Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-60543329241115379762013-08-18T13:42:59.723-04:002013-08-18T13:42:59.723-04:00Kevin found it just by researching on the internet...Kevin found it just by researching on the internet. Even when he does find the information it then researches that to make sure that it is accurate. You can't always believe everything that you see or read without doing the research first.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-32526969972876762972013-08-18T13:38:31.015-04:002013-08-18T13:38:31.015-04:00You are very right and we have heard many stories ...You are very right and we have heard many stories from people who think they can quickly get to Vancouver, they have no idea.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-65451486833200638342013-08-18T13:37:02.815-04:002013-08-18T13:37:02.815-04:00It sure is and we will only be seeing a tiny bit o...It sure is and we will only be seeing a tiny bit of it!Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136052866820208847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-31309057186885574612013-08-18T08:55:11.316-04:002013-08-18T08:55:11.316-04:00Great post you guys. I had no idea about this topi...Great post you guys. I had no idea about this topic. Fun and educational, all in one blog post!<br /><br />Cheersjohn bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05491423429997404339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-74240767476117938012013-08-18T07:12:58.267-04:002013-08-18T07:12:58.267-04:00I think the google satellite images or the earth w...I think the google satellite images or the earth would be more realistic for sure.our awesome travelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13031755671050584629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-92016651951290336802013-08-17T23:10:48.572-04:002013-08-17T23:10:48.572-04:00Very intersting Kevin. I had no idea Africa was T...Very intersting Kevin. I had no idea Africa was THAT big. But I have often wondered what they would have been and done if the "explorers" had left them alone and stayed home.Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00328866430156879312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-70520215796418330142013-08-17T18:05:38.531-04:002013-08-17T18:05:38.531-04:00And just when you get the perfect world map, there...And just when you get the perfect world map, there are several coups in countries and they change their names... :cDPaul and Marti Dahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17332654035718777839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-59182063902223401332013-08-17T16:36:56.472-04:002013-08-17T16:36:56.472-04:00Thanks for that catman. I shall include an edit ab...Thanks for that catman. I shall include an edit above!Kevin Readhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05795747155781311686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-82783819480002821412013-08-17T16:25:01.577-04:002013-08-17T16:25:01.577-04:00I am a huge fan of both geography and cartography....I am a huge fan of both geography and cartography. Actually, the Winkel Tripel and Robinson projection maps are the most geographically correct. <br /><br />http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa030201c.htmcatmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03933952205010830852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-46642687644572034812013-08-17T15:15:44.118-04:002013-08-17T15:15:44.118-04:00Wow, Kevin, that's something I'd not ever ...Wow, Kevin, that's something I'd not ever addressed - in all my travels. It is hard to depict on a flat surface that which is a sphere to be sure. I'm finding it interesting and more interesting as I age to note the obvious discrepancies in teaching our children. Why can't they just be given "the facts, Mam!"<br />Where did you find your geographically accurate map?mps2343https://www.blogger.com/profile/06059253597064329074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-82377472058328590022013-08-17T13:24:17.593-04:002013-08-17T13:24:17.593-04:00Hmmm. Valid point, and I see what you mean.
Yes,...Hmmm. Valid point, and I see what you mean. <br /><br />Yes, a globe. Or, the "google earth" map...Kevin Readhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05795747155781311686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-90797401732767686192013-08-17T13:14:49.966-04:002013-08-17T13:14:49.966-04:00From someone who took a year of cartography classe...From someone who took a year of cartography classes in college, I can assure you that the center (Peters projection) map is no more "geographically accurate" than any other flat map. Why? It seriously distorts distances. Take Africa, for example. Is the continent really twice as wide north-to-south as it is east-to-west? No, it's not.<br /><br />That said, I'm no fan of the Mercator projection found in many classrooms. As Bob and Dianna have suggested, a globe would be far more educational.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15974453598992131798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-31475889416102600822013-08-17T12:33:27.385-04:002013-08-17T12:33:27.385-04:00Hi Diane! Although you are of course correct, the ...Hi Diane! Although you are of course correct, the lower map that we show is the most geographically accurate available. It still begs the question of why we present the "typical" map to our schoolchildren under the guise of it being the way the world is made up.Kevin Readhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05795747155781311686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-48424546344164253362013-08-17T12:29:33.259-04:002013-08-17T12:29:33.259-04:00Bob is correct that perspective is distorted when ...Bob is correct that perspective is distorted when a globe is adapted to a flat surface. All the countries furtest from the equator are stretched.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05269098594489747343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-39189933631530528742013-08-17T12:03:53.860-04:002013-08-17T12:03:53.860-04:00And here I was looking for Rhodesia, thinking tha...And here I was looking for Rhodesia, thinking that maybe you had found an old map with that country on it. <br />Perspective is a hard thing to show on a flat map of a round earth. Is that why folks land in Toronto and think they can jump in a car and drive to Vancouver? Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03523653271715366168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7171307653508307040.post-64155263096622393682013-08-17T11:09:05.143-04:002013-08-17T11:09:05.143-04:00A huge gorgeous continent.
Love the header photo....A huge gorgeous continent.<br /><br />Love the header photo.Paul and Marsha Weaver OCT. 17, 2009https://www.blogger.com/profile/04066424117005030170noreply@blogger.com