The Transnistria parliament building with a statue of Lenin out front. In the city of Tiraspol, Transnistria. Photo taken December 9, 2016.
Where are Kevin and Ruth right now? Tiraspol, Transnistria...the country that doesn't exist.

Where are they going next? Northern Moldova. Arrive December 11th.

Thursday, July 14, 2016

Mexico RV Caravan news...

We had an email the other day from our Canadian contact person at Mexico RV Caravan Tours.

They're organizing a three month long RV tour to the Mexican states of Yucatan and Quintana Roo (Cancun) area for the winter of 2017-2018, and apparently interest is starting to pick up.

They've asked us to lead the tour, and we are interested in doing so, although we're not yet prepared to make a firm commitment.

The reason we're interested is that we did a similar route ourselves in the winter of 2008-20009 and we would like to do it again. It's a fantastic tour, and it will be a real adventure!

Almost 7,000 kms (4,300 miles) of adventure!

But, we just can't make a commitment this far in advance. I expect it will be this time next year before we're ready to say yes for sure. But we're certainly leaning towards doing it. We really enjoyed showing people parts of Mexico that they had never been to before, and this tour would be even better.

We're only going to take maximum 10 rigs ourselves, but there may be a second tour following us a week behind if there is enough people wanting to go. We don't feel that a large group is either in our best interests or the customer's best interests, so it's going to be a tight knit group of people who will be spending three months together. The dates aren't set yet either, but it would likely be January, February, and March of 2018.

Here's the preview page on the website...like I said it's still a long ways away, but if you're interested you had better get your name on the list. 


The beaches of the Yucatan Peninsula, Mexico.




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    1. And we'd love to have you along! I don't know yet how they're deciding on who goes with us, but there is probably an element of "first come first serve". Better to contact Paul Beddows at beddows1@telus.net and he can give you some more info.

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    2. Kenny, fill out the form on the website, I can mark down that you wnat to be in keveins group. Its possible i may lead the other group myself. We may even swap them over at some point just to get some variety. The plan is to merge them in melaque northbound for the St Patricks week, then split them off in Maztalan, with kevin (if he does it) taking anyone who wants to exit east out at Laredo and myself taking the others out via Nogales. We already have 9 intersted so we are taking a small deposit of $200 US or $250 cdn just to ensure people are serious before we turn anyone away

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    3. there are now 13 interested people signed up for this. Some are on a wait lists but with this 18 months out, I am very sure we can do 2 groups. I will do my best to match people up with what they want to the best of my abilities. I hsoudl also point out that we are trying ot make thsi falls loop doable. I am leading that one, but the issue is I am also going to the Toronto Rv show Oct 15th, 16th. That means i have to make a decision on it by end of Aug since if its on I have to fly out of phoenix to ensure I am back in AZ for the Oct 21 departure. If it is not, I fly out of Vancouver. The ocmpany hates to cancel trips so they are lopping 15% off and will run it at break even with 3-4 rigs. That trip include a 4 day trip to Copper Canyon, including hotels, dog care provided. If you do take that trip you will also get 15% off this Yucatan one in 2018 and the choice of opting out of any overlapping tours. its a good deal 55 days, 17 full days of tours, 27 meals all RV park fees covered. I am workign just for expenses to help make it viable. If you want an idea of what its like, check out the blog at www.mexicorvbuddies.com/Fall2014.php

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  2. Looking at the map I assume this is just a rough idea of the route. May we suggest adding Oaxaca now that there is a new campground? Many interesting places to visit in the area.

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    1. Oaxaca city is certainly worth a stop. However, while the route is certainly just a rough idea, it's difficult to include Oaxaca city. Whether you try and include it on the way down, or on the way back up, it's a pretty big detour. I think the plan was to do a bus tour to Oaxaca, so no, the new campground in Oaxaca would not be on the list as much as I would like to go there. But as I said, this is certainly not written in stone.

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    2. That mnap is very close to the proposed route. The tentative plan is to head to Oaxaca from San Cristoble, then to Puerto escondido and up the coast. There are no RV poarks in Sanggn there this year is bussing people form Villahermosa, but I want to find soem dry cmaping in the area, instead, bus & hotels add to the cost and cause pet care issues. There si already a detoru involved as the road from Palenque to San Cristobel is not safe. That may change in the next 18 months. The one trip will be a week longer than the other one. We wnat to keep this at 10 rigs (11 max) and have one group arrive at a spot as the other leaves. No stay will exceed one week. I will be scouting the route next spring with 4 or 5 previous customers (ones that are not a pain in the ass). They will provide input on how long to stay in any one spot, tour opinions and I will be building road logs. I also plan to try and identify where we can do cheap (or free) ad hoc tours to places like more obscure archaelogical sites. Kevin & Ruth are already very skilled in doing this sort of thing, but things change in 8 years. Since we paln to do this if we do have 2 groups i would like to try & bance rig types, so each group has enough pickjup trucks or tow cars available to do some car pools. There are a number of orgnaized tours, in fact the company is doing them for a caravan being run this season by Adventure, but I really want to outdo them at a lower price and add, well, more Adventure. The 4 or 5 rigs coming with me next Spring are lucky, they get a free caravan, but I am expecting them to pay the company for some tours so we can evaluate those.

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  3. would love to do it but simply can't pay the expense that a group tour would charge...

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    1. That, my friend, is an understatement!!!

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    2. should work out to about $110 US a day. That is not bad when you consider all your rv parks are covered and you get several full day torus, plus its likely there will be some hotels in th mix. This ocmpany is about 30% cheaper than others since its mexican based and does have to contract out services.

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  4. Sounds like a great adventure for you and the group!

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  5. Would be a nice tour, but we don't care for caravans, and the expense, I am sure you will enjoy it though.

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    1. Not everyone is into caravan tours, I know that it isn't something that we would normally do but it is different when you are the wagon masters. We haven't committed to it yet!

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  6. Hope it all works out for you. Sounds a great opportunity.

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    1. We will see, it is still to far away in the future to make the final commitment. Having said that we did enjoy ourselves when we took over the caravan tour for a month last February, more than we thought we would.

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  7. WOW...three months is a long commitment. We agree that a small group would be so much better.

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    1. Yes it is a big commitment and over quite a distance, that is why we said that if we do it we won't do it with more than 10 units.

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    2. You dont have to Ruth. 10 is what we are aiming for 2 groups or not. Tghe only time it will be more is on the last leg but there will be 2 sets of wagon masters for that and we will travel maybe an hour apart.

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    3. That's good to hear Paul!

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  8. We might consider hosting the two groups in our boondock spot near Chetumal. Kevin and Ruth are familiar with it.

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    1. And a beautiful spot it is! Thanks Kathe...we'll be in touch in early 2017 to discuss!

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    2. Kathe, can you contact me at beddows1@telus.net so we can discuss your spot. I will be throguh there with my scouting gorup (7-8 rigs) in February and would like to check it out the 2018 trips. We may look into arranging a day bus trip into Belize, so we are planning on a stop in that area.

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    3. Hi Kathe, I spoke to my boss. His attitude is that if there is an RV park in the area, we will use that. I understand his reasoning, he wanst to support established parks whenever possible for their future viability. I will still check you out.

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  9. Whats the latest word on Mexico introducing low sulfer diesel. Latest I had read it was to be this past year, but nothing yet.

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    1. I think Paul more or less just answered your question in the comment below. Hope this helps.

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  10. Same issue on ULSD. Competing staions are showing up in Mexico right now and by 2018 they will be allowed to imprt fule formt he uS, so we hope it will be rsolved. We have had people ignore it to no ill effects, but that is on the shorter route. I have not worked out reh extra miles on this one. The trick is to maintain the vehicle under load. There are [eopel out there who soudlnto atke craavsmn and they uually know who they are. I have had an awkward customer before. In my experience the other customers are quite effective at takign carew of them so I dont have get into a confrontation. Genrlaly whjat happens is you ifnd they keep to themselves, often forego tours, etc. That is fine as long as they do not poison a group. Wagon masters have to have a unique quality of being bale to let some things roill off theoir backs, but still maintian some firmness. Neither kevin nor myself are the storm trooper types, we both are enthusiastic about introducing people to mexico and make it fun while having fun ourselves. I get rid of the nametags as soon as possible and get as much back on any regimentation as possible. Th eocmpany gives its wagon master a lot of leeway to come up woth stuff on theri own, so yo dont feel like you ar eon an "If this is Tuesday it must be Belgium" ttype trip. oN this trip we are tryign to keep at 10, simply because there will eb more dry camping and when we do get a spot with hookups we want to make sure everybody gets one. If we can join the 2 groups in soem spots for a day or 2, that would be great.

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  11. I can give a good idea on dates & prices. Nothing in stone yet. Assuming we do 2 groups, Departures would be Jan 5 & 12th from Laredo. If after doing my scouting trip next spring I figure we can run them closer together we can adjust those. The 2 caravans would likley join up in melaque for the fabulous St paricks week celebrations, then both would exit Mexico April 1 or 2nd. Those down the extra week would only be charged the exta RV park fees plus a 10 US dollar a day wagon master fee. So very little extra cost. We would base prices on the shorter of the 2 trips at $140-$145 Canadian a day which si about $110 US. it may be a mite cheaper depending on how much dry camping is involved or we may just add tours to compensate. So that is a base figure of 80 days. If we add an optional Copper Canyon option on our way out with a nogales exit option (4 days with hotels & transport & meals), That would add about $1500. This is all gusswork based on my previous caravan experience, but it will be in the ballpark

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    1. We have toured this area before in our motorhome and loved it but taking 10 other units down will definitely be an adventure.

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